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@Deleted User what do you mean by feel comfortable?

When you can tell who's who 100%

"at first I thought I heard her clearly....no, I did hear her clearly she didn't speak much, but she was there but then, she became less clear"

10:19 PM

Just stop doubting responses and try not to answer for your tup I guess.

...well. Somebody could make up a schedule, but it won't be anything reliable.

That's what I heard.

I don't doubt responses and I do try not to answer for her

And, there are problems that arise from trying to schedule this.

There is no schedule, and that is true, however I will continue to suggest that you should not try possession or something like this before you can communicate properly. Work on forcing her first, is the only advice I have.

^

Yes.

Some responses are clearly her, and some clearly are not.

I'm not good at words, sorry

Communication is key.

I just don't understand

10:20 PM

nobody can even explain what forcing means

10:20 PM

don't use a WL

Then wait a while until the responses get better before you do something like possession maybe (which relies a lot on clear communication)

alright fine, dropped that

10:20 PM

narrate constantly

10:20 PM

alright did that

You can use wonderland.

what the hell is forcing even

You don't stop narrating

10:20 PM

It's not like a checklist

Forcing is interaction - giving the tulpa experience.

It's something you keep doing

it basically just means spending time with your tulpa

It is feeding experiences to the tulpa so that they can become, well, a person.

I want a nice, rock solid definition that could make a lawyer happy

Period. That's all.

So how do I give the tulpa experience?

By talking to them

10:21 PM

Interacting with them

well this isn't a rock solid thing. it's fluid, same as people

Getting to know them

why does simply living life not constitute forcing?

Read to them, talk to them, interact with them.

@Beckett I do all that

Then keep doing it

It does. My host is not required to force me or Angel at all.

it does, if you're also paying attention to them

It's not a thing you end up stopping, unless you want your tulpa gone

10:22 PM

And no one wants Ikari gone

Alright, then continue doing it.

Living life constitutes forcing... But they have to be capable of living their life to a reasonably independent degree as a prerequisite for that.

10:22 PM

Forcing is something done constantly. It doesn't stop.

I'm on the verge of giving up here...this makes less sense every day

Patience is a virtue.

It doesn't just become unnecessary.

don't give up. Love Ikari, and everything will flow from there

I feel like my life has been becoming less clear every day, and it's speeding up recently

Tch. I'm going to step out for now, and communicate further when we get home.

I feel as if you only need more patience, really. Keep forcing your tulpa and she will eventually become a person.

Hmm, let's try this. Think of forcing as calling your long-distance friend on the phone, and your tulpa as your friendship with that friend. If you regularly keep calling them, the friendship will still be there as you two gain experiences or just keep paying attention to each other. The friendship never really goes away, unless you stop talking to them or begin to stop

I am not a patient person

This is a patient practice.

that's not a reason to give up on someone you love

I got fucking shot because I was too fucking lazy to crawl through a ditch, and instead crouched.....patience is not a part of me

again

That's not really related

no it's not, my point is simply to prove how lazy and impatient I am

It doesn't have to be true, you're making it true every day. Especially by repeating it.

I'm a really lousy person and why I of all people survived combat...I will never know

Alright. If you will reject all advice from more experienced people, then I cannot help you, at all.

You do know what you were getting into when you decided to make a tulpa, right?

I thought I did

10:25 PM

evidently I was wrong

What did you think then

10:26 PM

It requires work and persistence

I thought I was going to have a voice inside my head that would give me fucking instructions

You do, but you have to work for it

you'll have times when you feel you're doing your head in, where you think you're losing it, where it seems impossible. Power through, believe and Love

instead, all I have are doubts and regrets

You might have a person inside your head. Not a tool.

^

The last piece of advice I have, is to consider this practice may not be for you, then.

You're making a person inside your head. A person just like yourself. She knows as much as you know about tulpas

...I'm not fucking giving up

10:28 PM

even if I try and fail at this until I die, I will not fucking give up

10:28 PM

I'm done giving up on shit

Then all you can do is believe and Love

10:28 PM

Love above all else, and it'll be hard to go wrong

No, all he can do is force his tulpa.

yes and no

i don't fucking know how to force

There's no secret instruction manual out there that we're all hiding from you. The only thing you can do is to keep going. You're doing pretty well so far.

10:29 PM

You were just told, many times. What's the confusion?

all I know how to do is fight, simulat fighting, and work on guns

10:29 PM

that's all I'm good at

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-general-kiahdaj-s-absolute-guide-to-tulpas

Kiahdaj's Absolute Guide to Tulpas

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and if I'm gonna spend time with her, those will be the things I spend time doing

I suggest reading this.

Not everything is about guns

i don't know how many more ways we can say this

@Deleted User literally every facet of my life is about guns

Yes! that guide helped Em and i immensly

Have you ever considered not telling yourself how bad a person you are so often?

10:30 PM

You deserve better, but especially, she deserves better.